Help me choose my first ever gaming pc :)?

Hey guys, getting my first gaming pc (sick of gaming on my dell) and have come across a couple of nice builds, of which I would appreciate advice on which one to go for.
DONT be put off by lot’s of writing, it’s all copied and pasted from the site to try and save you some time.

1)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-033-OP&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat=1713

- Case: Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case – Black
- Power Supply: Corsair TX 650W
- CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz overclocked to 3.60GHz
- Cooler: Titan Fenrir EVO CPU Cooler
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-US2H AMD 760G (AM3) Motherboard
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9
- Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: MSI GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5
- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
- O.S: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

PRICE: £788

2)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-035-OP&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat=1713

- Case: Antec 300 Gaming case – Black
- Power Supply: Corsair TX 650W
- CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 95W Edition 2.80GHz overclocked to 3.80GHz
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H 880G
- Cooler: Corsair H70 CPU Cooler (H70 Option)
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Seagate Baracuda 7200.12 500GB 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: Intergrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 AND ATI Radeon HD 5870
- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive
- Cooling: 2x Xigmatek Crystal White LED Fans
- O.S: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

PRICE: £959

3)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-252-OK&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat=1712

- Case: Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
- Power Supply: Corsair TX 650W
- CPU: Intel Core i5 760 2.80GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz
- Motherboard: Asus P7P55D-E Intel P55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Titan Fenrir EVO CPU Cooler
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870
- Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card
- Optical Drive: 22x DVD+RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter
- O.S: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

PRICE: £937

I’m leaning towards the 3rd option. Nice mobo with option to go crossifre 5870′s in the future if needed, well overclocked i5 that will beat a stock i7, and ATI’s 5870 should dominate almsot all games with gerat fps.

Build 2 comes with water cooling and free fans (although i don’t know why the water cooling is really needed), and a nice phenom 1055T processor etc, but still 2nd to the i5.

Build 1 is only really attractive because of the GTX470 and it’s crazy price. Less than £800 for those spec’s is very tempting, but I don’t think it’s as future proof.

PLEASE@@@ some computer-genius must know what I should go with. I’m STUCKK
I realise this Q is long, so any decent answer is basically guarenteed ebst.
Thankyou very much for your time,
-Liam
P.s. I will be playing on a 24″ monitor if ti makes a diff.

Answer by Page Flammia
i prefer second one

Answer by Flye777
I personally like the third one with Intel processor, Corsair RAM, Asus motherboard, and an ATI 5870. Very nice build. I think you are correct in leaning toward that one.

Answer by ツ Dan
To be completely honest with you I’m not a fan of any of them, and all of them are over-priced.

You mentioned that the motherboard for the third option would be good to crossfire a couple of 5870s, so I have to assume you have at least some computer technology knowledge. The reason I say this is because, if you have enough knowledge, purchasing the separate parts from a retailer such as Newegg and putting it together yourself would save you AT LEAST $ 280 (£180) and up. That, and the computer would really be “yours”, seeing how you built it yourself, chose each and every part and have it as customized as possible.

But, if you can only choose from these three, I would put them in this order:

-Choice #1: “2″.
Simply because it has a six-core processor which, if you correctly unlock, can become a twelve-core processor and can overclock even further if you have the proper software.

-Choice #2: “1″.
The price for the hardware here would be your best bet. Plus, allows room for upgrading. That, and water-cooling is great if you’re an over-clocker. (Over-clocking your hardware really heats it up. It may perform better, but it costs hardware life. Water-cooling for over-clocked systems is DEFINITELY recommended).

-Choice #3: “3″.
I personally don’t even like option number three. Underpowered for it’s price tag, even if the RAM is running at 1600MHz.

Just to let you know: playing on a 24″ monitor will not make a difference unless you crossfire your video cards. Also, you will likely not ever HAVE to crossfire two 5870 cards, unless you want to waste your money on graphic power you’re not using. (Unless, of course, you’re doing high-end 1080p video-editing and creation).

Good luck!

Answer by Rhyled
I’m in favor of #1, because it will run all current games at high settings, and is the cheapest of the bunch.

Comment 1- There are no additional cores available to unlock on a Phenom II x6, so ignore that part of the above answer.

Comment 2- If you’re considering CrossFiring in the future, factor in a PSU upgrade also. A 650W PSU is fine for a single 470 or 5870, but you’ll need to push up to 800W or so to have enough for a pair of 5870s.

Comment 3- If I were also to be doing serious and lenghty HD video editing, then I’d pick #2. 6 cores are wasted on games (and will be for a number of years I believe) but 6 overclocked cores is exactly what CPU intensive tasks like video editing call for. Gaming is far more dependent on the graphics card than the cpu, at least when you’re talking about high end cpus like these.

Buy one and don’t look back. No matter what you get, there will be something better/faster/cheaper to come along in 6 months or less.

What do you think? Answer below!

So I’m 18, looking for my first car. I found an ’04 Nissan Maxima, already look at it and I love it. I’m going tomorrow to possibly buy it. But the biggest turn off on the car was that the rims are custom. And I absolutely hate them!

The car is going for $ 7,999 and you know with used cars, you are not suppose to pay sticker price, do you think if I haggle with them and offer sticker price, that I could get them to put on new rims, like just normal stock rims and they can keep them to sell?

Or do you think it would be better to just buy the car with them on and try and sell them on my own. And how could I go about selling them? Any suggestions on how to sell them besides eBay?

http://showroom.auction123.com/formula_1_auto_imports/inventory/7312/1N4BA41E94C809983.html#lg

Here is the car.

If you suggest to sell them, how much do you think I should sell them for, for each rim?
Haha sorry, I came up with $ 7,999 because I was looking at another car at that price XD my bad. It’s really $ 6,995

Answer by Charlie T
Ask the dealer.

Answer by Chris
The ad shows a price of $ 6995? Where is the $ 7999 coming from?
Those wheels look like they are 20″ chrome and probably cost the owner 2,000 because he had to buy tires as well? Most dealers will ask the seller if they have the stock wheels for this very reason? The new owner may not love the custom wheels as much as the old owner did?

Take this from someone who has bought a dozen sets of custome wheels and tires. They are worth a fraction of what they cost when you try an resell them. I will be surprised if you could get $ 400-$ 500 trying to sell them on ebay? Look at the thousands of wheels for sale now.

Tell them you love the car and hate the wheels. You need a $ 1,000 off of their price because you need to buy Nissan stock wheels and tires.

Also, this car has almost 100,000 miles. Make sure you get a mechanic to check this car out before purchasing. The mechanical condition is far more important than the chrome wheels. If this car turns out to have a major illness, you will be stuck if you are the new owner.

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